Loading ...Blizzard recently announced that they would be combining the raid lockouts for 10 and 25 mans, in addition to increasing the difficulty of the 10 mans so they could justify giving it the same loot as the 25 man encounters (though, not as many pieces-per-player obviously). Within hours of being announced, the thread on the Cataclysm forums was full of a few hundred pages of discussion and flaming regarding the issue. While this is by no means an in-depth exploration, which I will save for later, this is an initial reaction.
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I think you missed the major points. No one is disappointed that you can’t do 10mans and 25mans. In fact, I think the majority of the player base is extremely happy that you no longer feel required to do both a 10man and a 25man. It’s ridiculous that most raiders feel like they need to kill over 25 bosses a week in order to get all their best-in-slot items, learn hardmode content, and stay competitive in progression raiding. Personally, I couldn’t be happier that Blizzard is taking some steps forward to eliminate the burnout ensuing.
The major problem that I have with the change is the class balancing act that’s going to ensue. How could Blizzard possibly balance all of the classes in both 10mans and 25mans when they’ve already failed at doing it in 25mans? Are Resto Shamans going to be the “25man healer” with Rain of Healing and Chain Heal (which are most effective in larger raids)? Are Resto Druids going to be the “10man healer” with Rejuv’s on 10 targets at all times? What happens on fights like Lich King and Saurfang, when Holy Paladins and Disc Priests simply dominate? What happens to Warlocks and Mages, who are incredibly dependent on raid buffs to do damage, while Hunters and Rogues effectively need one? Tanking disparities are going to be magnified in a 10man setting. I don’t trust Blizzard’s ability to actually balance 10mans and 25mans simply because the different raid sizes force people to play the game differently.
I’ll jump on board the train of “this’ll kill 25man raiding” if it remains in its current iteration, though I completely agree that Blizzard’s not going to let that happen. They are playing with fire here though. It’s simply too easy to downsize and too hard to upsize. Getting rid of 15 bad players is a hell of a lot easier than recruiting 15 good ones.
Thanks for the reply, Blacksen.
I admit it did not come out as clearly as intended, but it was pretty apparent in the Blizzard forum thread that people were initially very upset. However, I definitely agree with you that after people get over their initial reaction of, “WHAT? I CAN’T DO BOTH ANYMORE?” people will be thankful that it is not /necessary/ to do both anymore, much like it wasn’t in vanilla WoW. It is a great change for a variety of reasons, but it does not come without consequences, some of which you clearly noted (i.e., balancing of classes and encounters, splitting of guilds, etc).
As Blizzard is making some very significant class changes, such as giving mages bloodlust, it will be interesting to see what else they do to create balanced raid groups in both 10 and 25 man raid scenarios.
Note: We did NOT choose that wallpaper. We got stuck with it =(
Uh-huh. Suuuure.
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